Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Tolakram » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:09 pm

After all morning testing on Pendragon here are the results:


1H 50 spec: 107 swings, 86 hits (80%), 17.4 DPS, 52 min, 72 max, 60 avg
2H 0/50 spec: 119 swings, 95 hits (79%), 17.4 DPS, 65 min, 107 max, 87 avg
2H 50/50 spec: 119 swings, 104 hits (87%), 25.6 DPS, 108 min, 148 max, 128 avg


2H DPS of 0/50 spec is the same as one handed!
2H DPS of 50/50 spec is 147% of one handed.

Compare this with mid tests:


1H: 137 swings, 107 hits (78%), 19.0 DPS, 56 min, 79 max, 68 avg
2H: 160 swings, 130 hits (81%), 28.0 DPS, 130 min, 181 max, 157 avg


2H DPS is 147% of one handed.

It's about as simple as can be. The two handed spec does nothing except grant styles, the slash spec does everything as far as variance is concerned. How disturbing. :( Anyway this will be added to DOL shortly ... sorry Albs.
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Kadorien » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:57 pm

Has anything come of this since March?

I have just started my investigation, but there seems to be a lot of concern with Alb damage in particular and I haven't heard 1 way or another if this was ever implemented / fixed.
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Tolakram » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:05 pm

It was tested and implemented in the core.
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Kadorien » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:56 pm

Tolakram wrote:It was tested and implemented in the core.


Sorry, guess I didn't look back far enough. Only reason I ask is trying to find a solution for the supposed 'Albion does more damage than anyone else' bug
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Tolakram » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:04 pm

Did you take relics into account? Be careful when listening to players, they are wrong 99% of the time, but occasionally uncover real issues. :)
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby geshi » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:24 pm

There does seem to be something wrong with Albion Melee damage, on my server and on a few other recent shards :damm:
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Tolakram » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:22 pm

It's less effective than other realms unless you train both advanced and base spec. But ya know what, I'm going to completely ignore this until someone proves it with logs and shows they know how to log. I'm sick and tired of making patches and posting both pendragon and Storm logs and having people blissfully ignore the results and simply say something is wrong.

It's right until someone proves otherwise.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=15709&p=112908#p112908

The logs are included in that thread. Notice I even spent extra money to run two accounts so I could do PvP testing. :) If Alb damage is too high it's either because they have better weapons available or you forgot to factor in the relic damage bonuses.
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Kadorien » Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:05 am

Tolakram wrote:It's less effective than other realms unless you train both advanced and base spec. But ya know what, I'm going to completely ignore this until someone proves it with logs and shows they know how to log. I'm sick and tired of making patches and posting both pendragon and Storm logs and having people blissfully ignore the results and simply say something is wrong.

It's right until someone proves otherwise.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=15709&p=112908#p112908

The logs are included in that thread. Notice I even spent extra money to run two accounts so I could do PvP testing. :) If Alb damage is too high it's either because they have better weapons available or you forgot to factor in the relic damage bonuses.


I have no problem logging the damage for you to see. Armsman do more damage on OE source than any other 2 handed tank. I have no relics in game, so hard to factor in their ownership.

I'll get on top of this ASAP and supply you with logs

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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Kadorien » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:15 am

Minotaur's used for Race to balance any racial behaviors out

Test Subject - Level 50 Reaver
Reaver Armor

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[21:16:41] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Chain Vest]: chain (armor)     Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 27% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 127 Factor"
[21:16:42] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Chain Arms]: chain (armor)     Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 27% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 127 Factor"
[21:16:44] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Chain Legs]: chain (armor)     Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 27% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 127 Factor"
[21:16:45] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Chain Boots]: chain (armor)     Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 27% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 127 Factor"
[21:16:48] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Chain Gloves]: chain (armor)     Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 27% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 127 Factor"
[21:16:50] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Chain Helm]: chain (armor)     Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 27% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 127 Factor"
[21:16:52] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Bracer of Resistance]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Crush: +23 % - Slash: +23 % - Thrust: +23 % - Body: +23 % - Cold: +23 % - Energy: +23 % - Heat: +23 % - Matter: +23 % - Hits: +400 pts - Bonus to hit points bonus cap: +200 pts - All Skills: +13 pts  "
[21:16:54] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Ring of Skills]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - ALL magic skills: +11 pts - ALL melee weapon skills: +11 pts - ALL dual wielding skills: +11 pts - Archery: +11 pts - Envenom: +11 pts - Stealth: +11 pts - Shields: +11 pts - Parry: +11 pts - Bonus to style damage: +10 pts  "
[21:16:56] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Jewel of Resistance]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Body: +25 % - Cold: +25 % - Crush: +25 % - Energy: +25 % - Heat: +25 % - Matter: +25 % - Slash: +25 % - Spirit: +25 % - Thrust: +25 %  "
[21:16:58] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Ring of Caps]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Bonus to Strength attribute bonus cap: +101 pts - Bonus to Dexterity attribute bonus cap: +101 pts - Bonus to Constitution attribute bonus cap: +101 pts - Bonus to Quickness attribute bonus cap: +75 pts - Bonus to Intelligence attribute bonus cap: +101 pts - Bonus to Piety attribute bonus cap: +101 pts - Bonus to Empathy attribute bonus cap: +101 pts - Bonus to Charisma attribute bonus cap: +101 pts - Bonus to Acuity attribute bonus cap: +101 pts  "

[21:17:00] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Belt of Stats]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Strength: +101 pts - Dexterity: +101 pts - Constitution: +101 pts - Quickness: +75 pts - Intelligence: +101 pts - Piety: +101 pts - Empathy: +101 pts - Charisma: +101 pts - Power Pool: +101 % of power pool. - Hits: +400 pts  "
[21:17:03] @@[Guild] Kado/Item: "- [Free Epic Cloak]: cloth (armor)     Armor Modifiers: - 51 Base Factor - 50 Clamped Factor - 0% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 50 Factor"


Reaver Stats (Buffed):
AF 635
Slash Resist 29%
Thrust Resist 26%


Armsman Armor / Weapons

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[21:12:29] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Dragonslayer Plate Breastplate]: plate (armor)   Magical Bonuses: - Quickness: +22 pts - Strength: +22 pts - Cold: +5 % - Heat: +5 % - Spirit: +5 % - Bonus to style damage: +4 pts - Bonus to melee damage: +4 pts       Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 34% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 134 Factor"
[21:12:30] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Dragonslayer Plate Greaves]: plate (armor)   Magical Bonuses: - Constitution: +22 pts - Cold: +5 % - Spirit: +5 % - Hits: +40 pts - Heat: +5 % - Bonus to Constitution attribute bonus cap: +5 pts - Bonus to melee combat speed: +1 pts       Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 34% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 134 Factor"
[21:12:31] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Dragonslayer Plate Vambraces]: plate (armor)   Magical Bonuses: - Strength: +22 pts - Hits: +40 pts - Cold: +5 % - Heat: +5 % - Spirit: +5 % - Bonus to melee combat speed: +1 pts - Bonus to Strength attribute bonus cap: +5 pts       Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 34% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 133 Factor"
[21:12:32] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Dragonslayer Plate Boots]: plate (armor)   Magical Bonuses: - Strength: +18 pts - Constitution: +18 pts - Crush: +6 % - Slash: +6 % - Thrust: +6 % - Fatigue: +6 pts       Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 34% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 134 Factor"
[21:12:34] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Dragonslayer Plate Full Helm]: plate (armor)   Magical Bonuses: - Constitution: +22 pts - Matter: +6 % - Body: +6 % - Hits: +40 pts - Energy: +6 % - Bonus to hit points bonus cap: +40 pts - Bonus to armor factor (AF): +5 pts       Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 34% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 134 Factor"
[21:12:35] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Dragonslayer Plate Gauntlets]: plate (armor)   Magical Bonuses: - Cold: +5 % - Spirit: +5 % - Hits: +45 pts - Heat: +5 % - ALL melee weapon skills: +3 pts - Bonus to hit points bonus cap: +45 pts - Bonus to armor factor (AF): +10 pts       Armor Modifiers: - 102 Base Factor - 100 Clamped Factor - 34% Absorption - 100% Quality - 100% Condition   Effective Armor: - 134 Factor"
[21:12:36] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Epic Necklace]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - ALL melee weapon skills: +11 pts - ALL dual wielding skills: +11 pts - ALL archery skills: +11 pts - All Skills: +11 pts  "
[21:12:37] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Epic Melee Cloak]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Endurance Regeneration: +2 pts  "
[21:12:38] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Epic Melee Belt]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Bonus to melee combat speed: +7 pts - Bonus to melee damage: +7 pts - Bonus to style damage: +7 pts - Bonus to Strength attribute bonus cap: +21 pts - Bonus to Constitution attribute bonus cap: +21 pts - Bonus to Dexterity attribute bonus cap: +21 pts - Bonus to Quickness attribute bonus cap: +21 pts - Bonus to hit points bonus cap: +200 pts - ALL melee weapon skills: +13 pts  "
[21:12:39] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Epic Ring]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Quickness: +50 pts - Strength: +50 pts - Piety: +50 pts - Spirit: +20 %  "
[21:12:40] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Epic Bracer]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Crush: +23 % - Slash: +23 % - Thrust: +23 % - Body: +23 % - Cold: +23 % - Energy: +23 % - Heat: +23 % - Matter: +23 % - Hits: +400 pts - Bonus to hit points bonus cap: +200 pts - All Skills: +13 pts  "
[21:12:44] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Epic Jewel]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Bonus to melee combat speed: +10 pts - Bonus to melee damage: +10 pts - all Ranged Damage: +10 pts - Bonus to casting speed: +10 pts - Bonus to magic damage: +10 pts - Bonus to style damage: +10 pts - Bonus to armor factor (AF): +100 pts  "
[21:12:45] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Epic Ring]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Cold: +20 % - Energy: +20 % - Heat: +20 % - Matter: +20 %  "
[21:12:46] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Epic Bracer]: magical (item)   Magical Bonuses: - Strength: +101 pts - Dexterity: +101 pts - Constitution: +101 pts - Quickness: +75 pts - Piety: +101 pts - Empathy: +101 pts - Charisma: +101 pts - Acuity: +101 pts  "
[21:12:47] @@[Guild] Kadorian/Item: "- [Armsman Dragonslayer Halberd]: polearm (weapon)   Magical Bonuses: - ALL melee weapon skills: +4 pts - Strength: +12 pts - Quickness: +12 pts - Bonus to style damage: +4 pts - Bonus to melee damage: +4 pts - Bonus to Strength attribute bonus cap: +8 pts       Damage Modifiers: - 16.5 Base DPS - 16.2 Clamped DPS - 5.8 Weapon Speed - 100% Quality - 100% Condition - Damage Type: Slash   Effective Damage: - 16.2 DPS"



Armsman Stats (Buffed):
STR: 391
CON: 359
DEX: 331
QUI: 218
Weapon Skill: 1462
Weapon Dam: 1619
+10 melee damage

Armsman Polearm Damage (50 Slash / 0 Polearm) - As I was told damage is based of spec into Slash

Average DPS = 237 (51 Swings)
Highest DPS = 285
Lowest DPS = 194
Difference - 91 Damage

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[21:20:15] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 195 (-80) damage!
[21:20:18] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 271 (-110) damage!
[21:20:35] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 218 (-88) damage!
[21:20:38] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 257 (-104) damage!
[21:20:41] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 194 (-79) damage!
[21:20:44] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 225 (-92) damage!
[21:20:46] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 211 (-86) damage!
[21:20:49] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 258 (-105) damage!
[21:20:52] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 198 (-80) damage!
[21:20:58] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 258 (-81) damage!
[21:30:12] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 249 (-101) damage!
[21:30:14] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 267 (-109) damage!
[21:30:17] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 269 (-109) damage!
[21:30:20] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 238 (-75) damage!
[21:30:23] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 260 (-81) damage!
[21:30:26] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 250 (-78) damage!
[21:30:52] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 227 (-92) damage!
[21:31:03] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 272 (-111) damage!
[21:31:06] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 267 (-109) damage!
[21:31:12] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 238 (-75) damage!
[21:31:18] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 199 (-81) damage!
[21:31:23] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 236 (-74) damage!
[21:31:29] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 210 (-85) damage!
[21:31:43] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 249 (-101) damage!
[21:31:46] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 196 (-79) damage!
[21:31:49] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 261 (-106) damage!
[21:31:52] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 210 (-85) damage!
[21:31:54] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 261 (-106) damage!
[21:31:58] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 232 (-94) damage!
[21:32:00] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 285 (-89) damage!
[21:32:06] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 237 (-75) damage!
[21:32:17] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 199 (-81) damage!
[21:32:31] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 270 (-110) damage!
[21:32:37] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 197 (-80) damage!
[21:32:40] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 218 (-88) damage!
[21:32:43] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 249 (-101) damage!
[21:32:54] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 210 (-85) damage!
[21:33:00] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 258 (-105) damage!
[21:33:03] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 232 (-94) damage!
[21:33:05] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 199 (-81) damage!
[21:33:09] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 227 (-92) damage!
[21:33:11] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 271 (-111) damage!
[21:33:20] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 250 (-102) damage!
[21:33:23] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 223 (-70) damage!
[21:33:25] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 254 (-80) damage!
[21:33:31] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 266 (-108) damage!
[21:33:34] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 262 (-107) damage!
[21:33:37] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 207 (-84) damage!
[21:33:45] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 208 (-65) damage!
[21:33:51] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 258 (-105) damage!
[21:33:57] You attack Kado with your halberd and hit for 253 (-103) damage!





Warrior Stats (Buffed): (50 Sword)
STR: 391
CON: 359
DEX: 331
QUI: 218
Weapon Skill: 2138
WeaponDam: 1620
+10 melee damage

I did notice after the logging that the Warriors weapon was 5.7 Speed where as the Armsman Polearm was 5.8 However If .1 speed is causing this much change in damage, there is another problem on our hands

Average DPS = 194.02 (35 Swings)
Highest DPS = 251
Lowest DPS = 142
Difference of - 109 Damage

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[21:47:22] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 207 (-84) damage!
[21:47:25] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 232 (-94) damage!
[21:47:28] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 198 (-80) damage!
[21:47:34] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 184 (-75) damage!
[21:47:40] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 176 (-72) damage!
[21:47:42] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 213 (-86) damage!
[21:47:45] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 176 (-72) damage!
[21:47:48] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 234 (-95) damage!
[21:47:51] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 162 (-65) damage!
[21:47:57] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 147 (-59) damage!
[21:48:08] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 230 (-93) damage!
[21:48:10] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 156 (-63) damage!
[21:48:13] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 251 (-78) damage!
[21:48:16] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 193 (-61) damage!
[21:48:25] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 162 (-65) damage!
[21:48:31] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 228 (-93) damage!
[21:48:34] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 186 (-76) damage!
[21:48:39] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 147 (-59) damage!
[21:48:42] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 223 (-90) damage!
[21:49:17] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 230 (-93) damage!
[21:49:20] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 142 (-58) damage!
[21:49:23] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 181 (-73) damage!
[21:49:26] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 224 (-91) damage!
[21:49:55] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 207 (-84) damage!
[21:49:58] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 235 (-96) damage!
[21:50:06] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 218 (-89) damage!
[21:50:09] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 226 (-92) damage!
[21:50:15] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 147 (-59) damage!
[21:50:26] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 169 (-69) damage!
[21:50:35] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 179 (-72) damage!
[21:50:44] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 240 (-75) damage!
[21:50:52] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 162 (-65) damage!
[21:50:58] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 154 (-62) damage!
[21:51:01] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 176 (-72) damage!
[21:51:07] You attack Kado with your sword and hit for 196 (-79) damage!





And here is the Armsman with a 2H (same spec) though, no armsman would ever go this:
Same stats on the Armsman.

It is worth noting his weapon was the same as the Warriors EXCEPT he has 5.6 Speed as opposed to the Warrior with a 5.7 Speed

Weapon Skill - 1462
Weapon Damage - 1619

Average DPS = 228.92 (27 Total Hits)
Highest DPS = 261
Lowest DPS = 191
Difference of - 70 Damage

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[21:58:32] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 191 (-77) damage!
[21:58:35] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 252 (-103) damage!
[21:58:37] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 259 (-106) damage!
[21:58:40] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 197 (-80) damage!
[21:58:54] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 226 (-91) damage!
[21:58:57] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 257 (-104) damage!
[21:59:05] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 201 (-82) damage!
[21:59:16] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 260 (-82) damage!
[21:59:19] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 239 (-97) damage!
[21:59:24] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 216 (-88) damage!
[21:59:30] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 200 (-81) damage!
[21:59:41] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 246 (-100) damage!
[21:59:54] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 222 (-90) damage!
[22:00:08] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 195 (-79) damage!
[22:00:11] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 230 (-93) damage!
[22:00:19] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 245 (-99) damage!
[22:00:22] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 224 (-91) damage!
[22:00:24] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 261 (-106) damage!
[22:00:33] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 193 (-79) damage!
[22:00:35] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 244 (-77) damage!
[22:00:38] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 211 (-66) damage!
[22:00:41] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 234 (-74) damage!
[22:00:46] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 204 (-83) damage!
[22:00:52] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 234 (-95) damage!
[22:00:57] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 246 (-77) damage!
[22:01:00] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 241 (-76) damage!
[22:01:06] You attack Kado with your flamberge and hit for 251 (-102) damage!


I might move this over to test out a Hero (since they have Spear) but this already shows that Armsman do more damage 2-Hander vs 2-Hander than a Warrior when the Warrior has a slower weapon.


Hero 50 CS / 50 Thrust

STR: 391
CON: 359
DEX: 331
QUI: 217
Weapon Skill: 2045
WeaponDam: 1620
+10 melee damage

Average DPS = 192.18 (33 Total Hits)
Highest DPS = 239
Lowest DPS = 153
Difference of - 86 Damage

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[22:26:30] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 172 (-60) damage!
[22:26:33] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 176 (-61) damage!
[22:26:36] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 205 (-72) damage!
[22:26:39] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 208 (-72) damage!
[22:26:42] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 226 (-79) damage!
[22:26:45] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 233 (-82) damage!
[22:26:48] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 216 (-76) damage!
[22:26:50] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 162 (-57) damage!
[22:26:56] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 166 (-58) damage!
[22:27:05] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 185 (-64) damage!
[22:27:08] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 203 (-71) damage!
[22:27:10] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 202 (-70) damage!
[22:27:16] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 180 (-47) damage!
[22:27:22] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 216 (-76) damage!
[22:27:25] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 205 (-54) damage!
[22:27:27] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 213 (-56) damage!
[22:27:39] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 198 (-69) damage!
[22:27:42] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 185 (-64) damage!
[22:27:44] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 153 (-53) damage!
[22:27:47] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 208 (-72) damage!
[22:27:50] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 203 (-54) damage!
[22:28:02] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 213 (-74) damage!
[22:28:04] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 169 (-45) damage!
[22:28:07] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 173 (-46) damage!
[22:28:13] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 207 (-55) damage!
[22:28:24] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 176 (-61) damage!
[22:28:33] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 156 (-55) damage!
[22:28:47] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 155 (-54) damage!
[22:28:50] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 181 (-63) damage!
[22:28:53] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 215 (-57) damage!
[22:28:55] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 239 (-63) damage!
[22:29:01] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 220 (-77) damage!
[22:29:10] You attack Kado with your spear and hit for 156 (-55) damage!

I know this isn't the most controlled test as the weapon speeds were off slightly. I'll try to produce more numbers when I have more time, but for now this at least validates to an extent what I was saying... Armsman do more damage then their cross realm counter parts.
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby geshi » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:09 am

Sorry Tola, I was not having a go at you it's just that I heard from a few players on my server that it's broken in the source code.
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Tolakram » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:13 am

No problem geshi, thanks much for the logs Kadorien.

Huge bug, found, fixing now. This explains a LOT of weapon issues we've been having. :(
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Kadorien » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:02 pm

Tolakram wrote:No problem geshi, thanks much for the logs Kadorien.

Huge bug, found, fixing now. This explains a LOT of weapon issues we've been having. :(


Awesome!!!

Would you be able to explain the issue?

Was my logging of any help?

I was in a rush and I know I could have done a better job but in the future can you give me some pointers (aside from same weapon speed) as to how to submit this information clearer?

In your fix you ran the Albion check later in the code, was this simply not telling the system what weapon to use for the other realms?
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Tolakram » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:14 pm

It was mistakenly not considering any weapon for the lower damage if the realm was not Albion. So for calculating weapon variance the weapon spec was always considered 1 instead of the actual weapon spec the player had. Dumb mistake on my part.
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Kadorien » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:30 pm

Tolakram wrote:It was mistakenly not considering any weapon for the lower damage if the realm was not Albion. So for calculating weapon variance the weapon spec was always considered 1 instead of the actual weapon spec the player had. Dumb mistake on my part.


Well, if anything, good catch :), doesn't account for the higher DPS but a bug is a bug :)
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Re: Albion TwoHanded And Pole DamageCalculation Fix

Postby Tolakram » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:35 pm

Kadorien wrote:
Tolakram wrote:It was mistakenly not considering any weapon for the lower damage if the realm was not Albion. So for calculating weapon variance the weapon spec was always considered 1 instead of the actual weapon spec the player had. Dumb mistake on my part.


Well, if anything, good catch :), doesn't account for the higher DPS but a bug is a bug :)


Actually it does, and if you retest you should see the fix. :)
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