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Storm playable in french?

Postby Eudes » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:09 pm

Hello DOL,

I hope everyone here is going well!

I have a question about the possibility to play on Storm in French. Is it Storm translated in french? If I use a french 1.109 client, does it work well?

Thanks, have a nice day.
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Leodagan » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:51 am

I don't think Storm RvR have good translations for French language apart from the one in "Core" Language Files :)

Translating NPC names differently for each client Languages is also not currently supported in DOL (it's a server-wide param which set the language at startup)

French Client should have mostly no trouble except if you use a character with climbing ability...

I think HunabKu demonstrated that client enable "Climbing" when matching the Skill name in player abilities !

Which mean french Client needs something like "Escalader" Ability to enable character climbing in game...

http://www.dolserver.net/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=22516
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby HunabKu » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:14 am

Another thing to consider is the last localised clients version, like french, is 1.109c.

I think is so hard to make a real full functional multilingual server.
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Eudes » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:32 am

Thanks guys.

I have played a little bit yesterday with the 1.109c french client, no problem.

For the translated content it is different. Of course the client is in french but some contents look translated and some others no (with /language set FR). When fighting I got messages like "vous ratez lamentablement" or "FRattacksyou" (or something close).

All the quests contents are in english, which is not a surprise, but for some other information there is some french translated content server side.

Yes, doing a full multinlingual server is a huge work!
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Graveen » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:14 pm

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Yes, doing a full multinlingual server is a huge work!
Yes, really. Problem with translation is similar as documentation: they are both seen at least a waste of time, at most a long and boring task.

But they should both be a part of the project, as soon as everything else in structural design.
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Graveen » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:15 pm

Ellan Vanin is very beautiful, but you have to catch 1.118 at least iirc.
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Eudes » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:11 pm

1.119 I think.

We are playing with the 1.109C in french (thanks to Hunab) and I'm not sure that we are going to the PVP areas, we are waiting for Uthgard final release and want to discover what Storm is.
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby HunabKu » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:50 am

You can do a full french server with 1.109c client.
All not french ig need to be translated in db.
All rests are in code.
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Eudes » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:02 pm

Yes, we did it on a shard project, but it might be easier to translate everything which is not the case, sometimes finding the file where the text is looks like a real challenge :)
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Leodagan » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:27 pm

The easiest way to find the Translation in code is to run a "Search in All Files..." (Notepad++ or IDE) using part of the sentence (if there is a variable like a Mob Name or a Player Name this is probably a variable you can't search for)

Once you found the sentence you do a new "Search in All Files..." using the Identifier stated next to the according sentence :)

It's a pain in the ass, but better than lurking aimlessly in all sources :D
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby HunabKu » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:46 am

The most translation is on the database (multiple tables, not only language*'s)
After yes, you can easyly find by searching (ctrl + caps + F in some software)
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Eudes » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:16 am

Thanks Leo.

Hunab, I do not find that so easy :)

One of the reason it is difficult to maintain a dol shard project or even just launch it is all about who can help... if it takes some skill to help for something so simple as translation there is less people to give a hand.
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Graveen » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:59 am

Thanks Leo.

Hunab, I do not find that so easy :)

One of the reason it is difficult to maintain a dol shard project or even just launch it is all about who can help... if it takes some skill to help for something so simple as translation there is less people to give a hand.
Yes it is really difficult - it need a tool to ease contributions. We also have a transifex account but linking it to DOL is somehow a thing to think.

The translation is database based.
Basically the code is able to grab translations from database for a lot of thing: NPCs, items (quests are handled on their own iirc).
(the translation files are updating the database, and everything there is normally grab from DB too)

The main trouble is the db are specific to servers and actual mapping: one npc or one item is not guarantee present on another server.
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Eudes » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:36 pm

The main trouble is the db are specific to servers and actual mapping: one npc or one item is not guarantee present on another server.
I agree and understand well that. Some content are server specific, but some content are always used.

Maybe it is possible to see translation as a framework, with all common content in the DB for something easier to manage?
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Re: Storm playable in french?

Postby Graveen » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:25 am

As far as i remember this is the case.
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